Spelman's Independent Scholars

IS is an oral history research seminar in LEADS at Spelman College that provides students from across the disciplines with rich opportunities to learn from and bond with African American women elders of the South from diverse economic background. The elders have ranged in age from sixty-five to 103 and in achievement from earning a GED at the age of eighty and a Ph.D. at the age of twenty-four.

Gloria Wade Gayles, Founding Director of Spelman’s Independent Scholars

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Thursday, November 19, 2009

Stories From Our Elders

It was hailing, and Daddy came to the back door and said, “Baby, come help me get my boots off.” My daddy worked outdoors at a wood and fuel company and so, on the surface of his face and his arms, he looked to be about your color. I started pulling his boots off and before I knew it, I was trying to cover his feet with my dress. I said, “Mama, Daddy’s white. They’re going to take him away from us.” You know, back in those days, children didn’t see their parents’ naked feet.

Dr. Anna Harvin Grant
Jacksonville, Florida


When we left [the Bottom, a working class community in Atlanta], my father said, “Baby Doll, I want you to remember always to be nice to everybody you see because you don’t know whose two dollars put the shoes on your feet.” At that time, one or two dollars was the going rate for doctors. That philosophy has been a guide for me, and it was a gift from my father. It came from a man of Cajun background in Louisiana.

Mrs. Alice Holmes Washington
East Point, Georgia

I was cleaning this one room and I opened the drawer. A big roll of money was in the drawer. One hundred dollar bills! I slammed it shut. I walked around the room. I went back and looked at it. It was still there. I could see my grandmamma’s face telling me, “That’s not the way I raised you, Nadine.” That was somebody’s hard-earned money they left. Did I turn it in? Yes, because it was not mine.

Mrs. Nadine Bryant
Atlanta, Georgia

One of my fondest memories of growing up in Nashville with my siblings is going to birthday parties. I remember when I was seven and when I was eleven, my mother gave me a birthday party and, of course, she decided who would come to the party. We didn’t live close to other Black children because we lived in a White neighborhood, so it was a matter of children coming to visit. You know, we had to make special arrangements. It wasn’t easy to get to us, but living in the neighborhood had some advantages—you know, like deliveries and getting things that you needed. But it was isolated. It was lonely. We didn’t have any playmates on the block. The children didn’t play with us because we were Black.

Mrs. Julia Bond
Nashville, Tennessee


My father was a blacksmith, and his skills were very needed in the country because we did everything with horses and horses wore shoes. As a blacksmith, my father would shoe horses for everyone in the county. Black and white. People used wagons then, and wagons had iron rims on the wheels, and my father would repair the rims. My father died when I was twelve years old. He got the pneumonia from cleaning out wells—getting wet, you see. At the funeral, the minister said, “Would you people that owe Mr. Birch money, please pay his widow because he’s gone now.” We didn’t know folks hadn’t been half paying my father. Some said, “I’ll pay you Saturday” or “ I’ll pay you Friday”, and they didn’t get around to it. We didn’t have any idea who owed my father. Some of them were Black people, and some of them were White people.

Mrs. Emma DeGraffenreid
Talladega, Alabama

My father died in 1926, and the Depression came soon after then, so it was very hard, butmy mother saw us through. She took in sewing so that she could stay home and take careof all of us. We’d be sleeping and her machine would just be going. First, she had a foot pedal, and then when the electric machines came, she got an electric one. So, that’s how she made a living so that she could take care of the family. Her talent as a seamstress made money for her without her having to leave home. More White people came to the house than Black people for my mother to make things, you know.

Mrs. Lillie Harris
Chattanooga, Tennessee


[My grandmother] was a very enterprising woman. She would go into Griffin to attend workshops and seminars in order to become a professional midwife. She’d go down like in the morning and come back in the afternoon on the train. She was a professional midwife, and she delivered babies to Black women and White women as well. Most of the people would pay for my grandmother’s services with chickens and eggs. She took whatever they could give her, and she never turned anyone down.

Miss Annie Jewel Moore
Daytona Beach, Florida


Rosa [Parks] got on at one corner, and I would get on at the other. The bus driver would say, “Pack on back! Get on back!” I remember two bus drivers on that line who were humane. If these two drivers saw us coming, they would stand and wait and beckon. We would get on the bus and they’d say, “Don’t put your token in. You can ride to the end of the line free.” So, we got good seats. Then at the end of the line, we would drop in our bus token and ride all the way back across town. Some of the drivers were very nice like that, but others were very mean

Dr. Zelma Payne
Montgomery, Alabama


When [my grandmother] got to where I was jumping rope, she said, “Manuella”—she always dropped the E in my name and just called me Manuella—“Why in the world are you out here jumping rope when you should be inside on your knees?”I was supposed to be praying that I would see something. That’s what the church believed. When I went to revival that summer—after I had been praying with Grandma—I couldn’t lie, so I said to the church, “I haven’t seen anything.” The pastor said—and that was my father-- “Baby, you got to pray some more.” Let me tell you, Grandma came to our house every day at twelve o’clock for us to pray together. She would ask me, “Manuella, you see anything?”

Mrs. Emmanuella Spencer
New Orleans, Louisiana


And my next boyfriend was L.S. Steptoe. He was my real boyfriend, and one evening when we were talking, he told me he was going to marry a widow woman so that he could get her money. I told him to “kick his number” if that’s what he wanted. I didn’t like him any more after he told me he was going to marry somebody for money. Another boyfriend was Johnny Hampton. I didn’t want to marry Johnny him because he was just too jealous. Then I started seeing Johnny. Johnny Vick. He came by the house one day when nobody was home except me. When he came to the steps, he shouted, “You mighty happy.” I was inside sweeping and singing. I gave him some water. That was the beginning, and he never stopped coming to see me. We married in Mississippi. That was in December 21, l941. I was twenty-nine, and Johnny was about the same age.

Mrs. Earnestine Vick
Tinus, Louisiana

18 comments:

Anonymous said...

I am so pleased that this work is continuing. It is wonderful that Spelman students have the opportunity to interact with elders by interviewing and writing their stories. Your recent focus on elders from the Ninth Ward in New Orleans is welcomed. Keep going. I look forward to the next volume.
Rosetta E. Ross
Atlanta, Georgia

Anonymous said...

This is truly exciting. Whose bright idea was this long overdue project.

Unknown said...

Imagine how much better this world would be if all of us could truly hear and put to good use the life lessons and wisdom of our elders. This project is brilliant, poignant, entertaining, and VITAL. It needs to be shared with all of the younger generations.

Anonymous said...

This is a wonderful time for this project to exist. Many young persons are not reading our history. This opportunity to be exposed to this
"live project" may excite their interest. Thank you - SIS.

Joan Speaks
Stone Mountain, Ga.

Anonymous said...

I am moved to tears as I read the heartfelt stories of these elders. Memories of the elders in my family are brought to mind, revving up feelings of gratitude for the legacy they left to us and to society as a whole. We need much more of this , stories that reveal the strength and perseverance of our ancestors.
Faye from Chicago

Anonymous said...

Reading these stories was enlightening beyond belief. How little we know about this segment of our population. Yet, these elders provided a wealth of knowledge, education and other such skills that enhanced our great past. The encouragement and pride that these stories evoked cannot be measured
Joanne from Phoenix

Anonymous said...

This is such a wonderful and worthwhile project. Thank you for providing the space, opportunity and forum for our generations 'royalty' to share their rich life experiences with us. May your work be richly blessed. I'm honored to support this wonderful initiative.

Ken Williams
Zuberi KMT//

www.unfoldthesoul.com

Beth Espy said...

This project is fabulous! I wish we had had something like this when I was a Spelman. My family videotaped my grandmother before she passed and I must say it was the best idea ever. Generations after her will be able to hear her stories first hand. It is critical we preserve our family memories. Kudos to Dr. Gayles and her students for capturing such history. I have met a few of the elders and they are captivating. Keep up the good work!

Beth Espy
C/O 1991

Mariolyn Foston said...

We live in an era of unprecedented change. The U.S. is dealing with a recession that clearly rivals the depression of the 1930’s, terroristic acts abound, health care reform is inevitable, and for the first time in U.S history, this country boasts its’ first African-American President, Barak Obama. Still, planted in the soil of our existence like deeply rooted trees, are elder women whose experiences, both good and bad, gave birth to a people who would prove to be unremitting and resilient; determined and resolved; patient and persistent; and ultimately wise.

These stories, as told through the SIS Oral History Project, are the cornerstone of our existence and struggles. They are etched in the fabric of black life in America as testimony to the monumental achievements of our people. I am compelled to extend a genuine expression of gratitude to Dr. Gloria Wade Gayles for her vision and efforts in establishing a means of dialogue and interchange between young women and elder women. Dr. Gayles has provided the world with a tangible means of understanding and valuing these women of wisdom. Their lives are gifts to us. Their words are the immortal premise by which we will thrive.

Paula said...

This project is simply amazing. You have blessed us richly by not only preserving the stories of our elders but by allowing us an opportunity to hear them. The students at Spelman are having an invaluable experience that should be cherished.

Thank you for your vision and perserverance.

Paula

Hatshepsitu Tull said...

Participating in the inaugural SIS Oral History project is one of the highlights of my life. Learning from our elders and sharing their stories was an invaluable experience. Keep up the good work SIS!!!!

Hatshepsitu (Happy) Tull

Erminel from Talladega said...

Known as Mama and Mama Letha, my maternal grandmother, Letha Harrison, lived to be 107 years old. When she was 103, I moved her from Meridian, Mississippi, to live with me in Talladega, Alabama. She remained with me until her death in 1997. When asked the secret of her longevity, Mama always replied, "Love the Lord and treat people the way you wish to be treated." She did that! She would have loved sharing her story of faith with your students. How wonderful that they have an opportunity to sit at the feet of our elders. It will change their lives.

Penelope said...

What an amazing concept and experience for young Spelman women. I have had an opportunity to read various portions of volume I, and it was such a refreshing encounter between young people and these women of wisdom. I appreciate our elders for their openness and the Spelman Scholars for their devotion.

Give us more ...

Penelope

Paul said...

One of my friends mentioned the SIS project to me. Though I could not have personally been involved, I would have loved to have had the memories and stories of my grandmother preserved in this way. I am both envious and delighted to see such a wonderful venue for propping up our elders.

Paul

Martin Lehfeldt said...

At the Georgia Humanities Council, on whose board I sit, wse often talk about the importance of preserving all of our memories. Those memories—those stories—weave a collective, cultural history that we must have if we are to understand who we are and how we came to be. Dr. Gloria Wade Gayles and her colleagues and students are performing a most valuable service through their recording of our elders' stories. I hope they will continue to find the resources to maintain this valuable contribution.

Pauline E. Drake said...

I am so pleased that my mother, Jennie Weaver Drake, agreed to be interviewed and that we have her story in volume two. At first, she was reluctant, even unwilling, to be part of the project. It took some coaxing to get her to consent. Although she may not have admitted it, she enjoyed being part of the SIS oral history project, especially the interaction with the student who interviewed her. In the end, she was happy to see her story in print. Now that she has made her transition from this life, we (her family members) are proud to have this record of her life and to share it with younger members of the family.

L Harton said...

As I read through some of the excerpts I can imagine sitting at attention, taking in every word like air...I wish my grandmother had shared more of her stories but she didn't believe in talking about too many things.

Anonymous said...

As i read these post, I started thinking about the wonderful stories Josephine Dobbs Clements shared during alumnae meetings and other social gatherings here in Durham, NC. Your work is so important, because it is critical that we capture the stories or our elders and share with the next generation. Thank you.

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